“The wisest question when we are deeply sad is not, “How can I end or numb this pain immediately?”

The wisest question is, “What is the meaning of this pain? or, “What does it reveal to me? What is it calling me to understand?”

– Marianne Williamson, Tears to Triumph


My guest today is one of the most important spiritual voices of our time, Marianne Williamson! This is a HUGE deal. Marianne has been one of my greatest teachers of all-time. She is an internationally-acclaimed spiritual author and lecturer. Seven of her twelve published books have been NY Times bestsellers, and four of them have been at #1 on the list!


Screen Shot 2016-08-21 at 4.38.24 PMHer mega-bestseller, A Return to Love, is a must-read. As is her newest book Tears to Triumphwhich explores the spiritual journey from suffering to enlightenment. This book really changed my perspective on suffering. I HIGHLY recommend checking it out.

Today we talk about suffering, depression and the path to healing.

There’s so much value and wisdom packed into this episode, including:

  • Why suffering is an unavoidable part of our experience? And how can we survive and even transcend it?
  • Why it’s important to be fully available to our suffering, as opposed to suppressing it or numbing it?
  • What the role of forgiveness and love is in freeing us from our pain
  • How we can proactively cultivate happiness
  • The power of forgiveness
  • The wisest question you can ask yourself when you are deeply sad
  • and so much more.

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In today’s show we explore:

  • Why suffering is a normal part of our human experience
  • The effects of the numbing of our pain
  • The medicalizing of human despair—the multi-million dollar business
  • Why we don’t need pills when we really need to “do the work”
  • The huge black wave of her depression that was unavoidable
  • Lessons learned in a failed political campaign
  • The power of surrendering to a higher power in suffering
  • How to pro-actively cultivate happiness
  • The importance of DOING for others
  • Grief: the psyche’s “immune system”
  • Forgiveness of self and others
  • Meditation to quiet the voice of ego
  • Relationships: where we come to heal
  • Taking responsibility for our speech
  • Buddhist principles -SAY the right thing; DO the right thing

Connect with Marianne and Resources from the Episode:


Book: Tears to Triumph

A Course in Miracles

Watch Marianne’s Free Livestream Lectures on Wednesdays

Eckhart Tolle  (When I asked Marianne who she would consider a living enlightened master – this is who she said. Definitely look into his teachings. They will change your life.)

Let’s Connect!

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